RINGO, MY GIRLFRIEND AND MARRIAGE
from The Mail on Sunday, July 2002
During Francesca Gregorini's childhood, drugs took
over the lives of her stepfather Ringo Starr and her
mother, Bond film star Barbara Bach. Throughout her
twenties, she battled her own drug demons. Now, aged
33, she has fallen in love - with Portia de Rossi, star of
the top-rating Channel 4 series Ally McBeal.
We meet at The Ivy, a Hollywood landmark, where I
spot actor Morgan Freeman, Top Gun producer Jerry
Bruckheimer and several studio moguls. Gregorini,
unfazed by the wall-to-wall celebrities, is dressed in
rock-chick mode - camouflage-print trousers, a yellow
T-shirt bearing the logo 'Winona: Don't do Dru drugs
wears a platinum band encrusted with diamonds. A few
days before our meeting, an American newspaper
announced that Gregorini and De Rossi, 29, who plays
ice- cool lawyer Nell Porter in the legal drama, have
'married' in a special ceremony. Is this true? She grins.
'I am very honest and I will talk about anything, but not
about Portia. I have to respect her privacy. It's not fair on
her.' But are they married? 'No, absolutely not. The ring
is from Chanel.' Have you met someone you want to
spend the rest of your life with? She throws back her
mane of pre-Raphaelite curls. 'I am an open person.
But out of respect for Portia, I don't want to get into it.
I've had boyfriends before, I was a late bloomer
sexually. 'I was a tomboy until I was 18. It didn't occur to
me to be interested in sex until I went to university -
then it was all anyone was interested in. I had
boyfriends but I never understood the whole hoopla
about sex. I could take it or leave it. Then, when I
discovered girls, it was like "Aha, now I get it!" I was 19
years old. I knew I was a lesbian.'I told my mum I
thought I might be a lesbian and she talked to Rich [her
family's name for Starr] and he said: "She's definitely
not a lesbian." Rich had met lesbians when he was
touring with The Beatles.'I remember Mum came back
to me and said: "Oh, don't worry, Rich says you are not
a lesbian. Everything is fine." Finally, when I gave them
evidence that I really was a lesbian, they were very
supportive and cool. Considering what some lesbians
go through, I had it easy.'
I ask her about intimate photographs showing her and
De Rossi kissing. It was the first public indication that
Australian-born De Rossi - who was once romantically
linked to Hugh Grant, her costar in Sirens - was gay.
'We didn't know they were being taken. They are what
they are. The trouble with newspapers is that they tell
the truth, whether you like it or not. I am not going to talk
about it.'But she will admit to being 'blissfully' happy. 'I
thought being happy would affect my songwriting. I
always thought I had to write from a point of angst, but I
am truly happy and my writing hasn't been affected.'
Gregorini, a singer/songwriter, is preparing to launch
her career with a 'showcase' of her songs next month at
Johnny Depp's club, The Viper Room, in LA. She has
also contributed two songs to the soundtrack of the
minor film See Jane Run, in which she also had a small
acting role.
She was born in Rome. Her mother, who starred in The
Spy Who Loved Me, met her father, millionaire Italian
industrialist Augusto Gregorini, on a plane.'My mum
was living in New York and was going to Italy for a
modelling job. He says she paraded back and forth in
front of him at the airport and they happened to sit
together and that was it. I was born about a year later. I
lived in Italy until I was eight. We lived in Rome in this
huge four-storey converted church. It was really cool.'
Gregorini was soon joined by a brother, Gianni, now
29, who works with their father. When she was eight,
her parents divorced and Bach took the children to
America. Gregorini says: 'It was awful. I was this all-
Italian child and I hardly spoke English. I felt as if I'd
landed on another planet. I'd left a gorgeous school
and ended up in a public school in Los Angeles.'I was
getting into fistfights and being bullied. It was a
nightmare. That's when my shyness kicked in. I started
to feel isolated and alone.'Mum met Rich on the set of a
film called Caveman, which is a cult classic because it's
so bad. As a stepdad he was good for my brother and
me because he was the exact opposite of our dad. My
dad is a real pushover - anything you want goes. Rich
is very different. It's the Italian versus the Brit - and a
northern Brit at that. Rich is quite staid. He introduced
us to a whole other world, both good and bad.'
Gregorini is seeringly honest about the first ten years of
Starr and Bach's marriage - a decade of drugs and
drink - which left the troubled teenager feeling isolated
and abandoned. Much of this time was spent in Britain
on 80 acres of land near Ascot which, she says, gave
her 'a lifelong love of the English countryside'.'When I
was living with them, it was their drugs heyday. I had
other friends who were rocks stars and their houses
were used for parties morning, noon and night. With
Rich and Mum it was different. They were very much in
love and they wanted nothing to do with anybody
else.'When Mum met Rich, I lost her in a way. She was
in love but, more than that, they got wrapped up in the
whole drugs thing. But their troubles made me a better
academic. I studied all the time. I was always hidden
away in a room reading because Mum and Dad were
out of it. I think Mum and Rich made an effort to be
awake when we got home. I'd go off to school in the
morning with my brother and they were never around.
They were always still sleeping. When we got home at
night, Mum and Rich would get out of bed and have
dinner or whatever.'They would sit on the couch and
watch television and I would say to them: "Why are you
doing that now? You can watch television when you're
70." They were so in love that they were happy to stay
at home, drink, do drugs and just hide away.' Luckily,
her mother and stepfather went into rehab in
1988.'They were very open about it and did it together. I
think that's a big reason they are still together - they
went through it together and they beat it together. They
are amazing people now, so healthy. We have rebuilt a
lot of the relationship that was missing when I was a
child.
'Seeing the drugs up close had the opposite effect on
me: I rebelled against them at first. The house had a
recording studio and that was my refuge. That's the first
time I got into music; I would write.' Did her stepfather
encourage her? 'Please! He gave me one drum lesson.
Apart from that, I was on my own. Which was fine. That
was just his way. I love Rich because he's a good
bloke. He's good to Mum and they are a good team.
Rich loves TV - EastEnders, Coronation Street,
everything.' I tell her that the idea of Ringo Starr sitting
watching Coronation Street is funny. 'He loves it. My
whole childhood was spent watching that show and
EastEnders.' But he's a Beatle... 'Yeah, but this Beatle
loves EastEnders.' The recent death of George
Harrison hit the family hard. 'Rich was so sad when
George died. They had a deep connection, a soul
connection,' she says. 'People think The Beatles were
chummy all the time but that's not entirely the case. I
knew George as "the gardener". He loved his garden
and when we'd visit his house, that was what he
showed us. He was so proud of it.' She asks me not to
reveal where Starr and Bach now live 'because of what
happened with George when he was attacked'. She is
protective of her stepfather and he, in return, is
supportive of her and her relationship, and was a guest
at De Rossi's recent birthday party.Gregorini laughs. 'I
wish Mum and Rich had been more shocked when I
told them about my sexuality. I was like "This is who I
am" and they were totally relaxed and said "Yeah,
whatever", and then life went on exactly as it had
before.' Gregorini finally conquered her loneliness after
going to America to attend Brown University, a
prestigious college on Rhode Island, to study film: 'It
was so strange leaving England and going to America.
Again, it was music which held me together. I played in
various bands, and I enjoyed it. I had a release for my
frustrations.'At Brown, I had my fair share of drugs and
alcohol. I experimented. But there was always
something in my brain which containedit. When I came
to LA, I carried on doing drugs. I lost a lot of my twenties
to drugs in the same way Rich and Mum lost years. I
had my share of fun, but I am glad I did it in my twenties.
'I haven't led the most conventional of lives. For a long
time I was your typical messed-up child of a celebrity,
two celebrities, actually. But I've made it through and
this is the happiest and most stable I have been in my
life. Making music has really helped me get to this
place. I just want to make the most of it and enjoy it.' For
the aspiring singer her first 'proper' interview turns out
to be less of an ordeal than she feared: 'I guess I am
used to being in the spotlight.' This is her first interview,
says Gregorini, 'because before I really had nothing
much to talk about except what the famous people
around me were doing. I never felt I wanted to speak
publicly about my life. I always did a good job of
ducking out of the spotlight.'Now I have something to
say and I believe the best way of doing things is to be
totally honest about my sexuality and the problems I've
had in my past.
I believe people accept things as long as you are
honest.' Isn't it ironic that she has high-profile parents
and now a high-profile lesbian lover? 'I have never
known life without one of my parents, or both, being in
the public eye. That is just who I am.' While Gregorini
protests that she is not into celebrity, she admits that
her best friends are the children of stars - Ione Skye
and Donovan Leitch, the children of Sixties singer
Donovan, and Amy Fleetwood, daughter of Mick. 'I am
not trying to pass the buck, but when you have famous
parents you are up against a lot. It makes you stand out
at school, people treat you differently. As much success
as I have, I will never be a Beatle. That is something I
just deal with.'I've dabbled in therapy but in the end,
music works for me. I can't say that I've managed to
come out of my childhood damage-free and I think
that's why it's taken me until now to work through
things.' Gregorini - who has an apartment in New York
and a home in the Hollywood Hills - is house-hunting
with De Rossi. She says: 'I'm ready to be a homebody.
For years I didn't know what I wanted. It's taken me until
now to work that out. Now I am ready for a career but
also to be a parent. I feel confident in my own skin and
I'm ready to be me.'







